It requires a special approach. Im struggling with the same issue thanks! Nora are you installing tower or Windsor? Which is why I posted asking for people's experiences today, but I never received any replies. You have a special floor. Hard to believe contractors would use your countertops as work bench! It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. Mega is the 'cheap' level of the Bona line-up. Photos would be helpful. What is your installer recommending? The correct answer should be "nothing at all". I will post pictures. It seems like we are the first to ask for the white oak with all the cabinet makers in our area. @Mary Elizabeth I think we have narrowed it down to Ciranova's products..after testing theirs, Rubio Monocoat and several Pallman's waxes, plus a number of normal stains. Do you know if Duraseal is found in home stores? My kitchen is the opposite of yours with white cabinets and gray countertops and I like the way my natural white oak floors warm it up. Your floor looks amazing. I think over the years, they learned how to avoid distressed clients who hate the finished floor color. I hope I get into the house before any subcontractors mess them up again! It may come in other thicknesses too. Right? Floors are already sitting in the new house acclimating and I know that I am not cut out for the oil finish.). I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). I think we found a good match. The Bona Traffic HD is three steps higher than Mega. Dont know if you can see much in this photo the brown paper is torn away under the island and an area of the floor shows there. D Debra Travis Red Oak Hardwood Floors Installing Hardwood Floors Natural Wood Flooring Decoration We refinishing the floor and apply natural seal from bona and top coat bona mega one satin D (Just read the dog drool threads.) white/grey countertops with light wood floor & stainless appliances? The builder had choices for us, this or that type of choice. It is engineered 7 - to be finished on site. They are *very* hard, and you will be hard pressed to find a coating that stands up to them), but it would tell you that the floor coating appears to at least be behaving. This looks to be pretty natural with a very matte finish. I might use the Baro for my cabinetsor the Pallman's Natural. The reactive simply pulls the tannins. What was really helpful to us is that the installer did lots of different samples for us and every new layer of the top coat changed how the wood looked. I originally wanted Corian in the kitchen with a stainless area (Near the cooktop) because they withstand abuse, can be refinished and are hygenic. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? Finalize your sanding with 150 grit and apply the first coat. . Ive read quite a few different comments on all 3 and some seem conflicting. In a Glass Darkly - Project Gutenberg Australia There are MANY people who do NOT know they are 'clean-shiny' people until they purchase matte floors. They held up to move in with no major scratches. Just a little darker then the natural rift oak. Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor They don't turn orangebut they do throw a strong YELLOW hue onto the floors. Carly, please provide source for your floors, exactly what Im looking for. We have decided to go with a mix of white and light wood for the cabinets. G & S isn't bashing you, they are bashing the 'dudes' in the industry. Some 5 white oak with Bona Natural Seal and Hd traffic extra matte. Our contractor unfortunately was in a hurry so we didnt test many potential finishes. Why would you use Bona Nordic Seal (Bona productobviously) and then go with LOBA??? (We dont know for sure what our on site finish will be either but felt we had a little more control this way.). I personally feel a reputable stone supplier and fabricator will educate you in mineral composition, stone formation, and inform you how and where the stones are quarried. The tile on the back wall of the shower and the backsplash is a soft baby blue glass. First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Flooring guys are the best since they are redoing to make me happy. Natural You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Double cost any standard stained finish. Hi thanks in advance for your help We are having white oak installed and finished on site. WebOur new build has white oak hardwoods & Id LOVE to have them look like these. Plato has the white oak shade we like - nude cream - but the estimate came in really high. less. will slightly darken the floors and sort of intensify the variation (the sample boards almost looked wet to me). Alternative to Bona NaturalSeal, Classic or Nordic on white oak Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? It will 'deepen' the colour you see (ie. I was asked two separate questions. We tried a few Duraseal stains on samples and none of them were right. WebBona DriFast Stain is a premium quick-drying stain for interior hardwood floors. Our contractor suggested Bona Mega to save some money. I lost confidence in my floor guy - I think he wasn't wiping the stain off but letting it dry on resulting in washed paint look. P.S. The natural tones of the wood will allow the rest of the space to look it's best. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. You only need an inch. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. I do have a lot of experience with these stones because I own a Granite, Quartz and Quartzite company. WebBona ClassicSeal Floor sealer highlighting the wood's natural color Size: 1 gal Find a distributor Information Documents Key benefits Minimizes tannin bleed, especially on white oak Exceptionally clear, highlighting true color of wood VOC Compliant Seals the wood, preventing the finish from penetrating Information White oak refinish- Bona NaturalSeal My contractor said that I will probably need to use the renew oil every few year which I am fine with. Great photos and beautiful floors! We told the company to put 3 coats of the Bona product on the floors. On their reactive stains and waxes: You can buy a sampler pack of both, or individual bottles. Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? Bona Ours is from Norway. It looks like the grain is *very* deep on the board to the left. I found a highly recommended company that has experience with placing wood floors in the most humid environments Plenty of high-end homes have wood floors here so someone has to do it & do it well- just find "that" guy! For a house your size and a $50k budget. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. WebBona Traffic HD Anti Slip Satin Water-Based Wood Floor Finish - 1 Gallon BKWBTRAFFICHDANTISLIPSATING01 $153.58 Unit Size: 1 Availability: In Stock Add To List Add To Cart Bona Domo Satin-Matte Water-Based Wood Floor Finish - 1 Gallon BKWBDOMOSATIN-MATTEG01 $64.99 Unit Size: 1 Availability: In Stock Add To List They can use a big machine with a screening pad to get up most of that gunk. I also have some design software that may help with your need. I got the hardwax sampler of--I think--16 colors? Bona NaturalSeal has a bit of white pigment (less than NordicSeal). WebMy new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. They make their final grit-pass and then they will place the colour samples down with a coat of finish. @renee, can you post photos of the completed project? Not change the raw color much, 2. Not always as expected. I read that Natural has a bit of white in it too to avoid the yellow, but unsure if that is fact. Any ideas on stain/stain combos and sealants to make it happen? I want a natural look as well and I think I'll end up meeting with our floor guy sometime next week to go over samples. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. I am sorry , Thank you!! The NaturalSeal will offer the closest to the 'raw look' you are after. In this video, Joe demonstrates how to use Bona NordicSeal to achieve a whitewashed look in a hardwood floor. If they are not able to confirm to you what material it is, then look elsewhere for your countertop fabrication. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. @skru33 Thanks! carlyhow many coats of HD did they apply? Nice, eh?! Bona professional finishes are sold in gallons only. I guess it could help but honestly unless someone has your exact home with your ecxat light it is still just a guess . Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. Heres a photo of our family room. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. If, youre looking for a small amount. The sand/finish guys sampled natural seal, amber seal and IntenSeal. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. Do you know if the Milesi you ordered includes sealer to stop tannin bleed and a UV filter? @Ryan Danielson what did you end up going with? :), @bowmeister67 and @widdy23 I used exactly what bowmeister said , 1 coat of Bona Nordic seal and 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. My builder said hed work with them even though he never had before and I had several conversations with them. If you you know you are doing something we offer on floor samples (3x3) in many combinations and finishes. The cabinets were custom and all paint is SW- Pure White. For a clean-shiny person there is NOTHING that will make them happy in the matte or satin range. I have about 735 sf. Pretty sure they bleached their cabinets but who knows at this point. It doesn't make sense. (Mirror and lighting still not in). Any suggestions would be great. @widdy23 Seems like everything is taking longer than expected. (Please do not tell us to order pre-finished floors or use an oil finish. I hope they hold up to daily use. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. It did not affect the color. In this angle Nordic is on the right and Natural is on the left. Just seemed so right. Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, Color of the Year: Off-White Is On Trend for 2016, Houzz Tour: A Beautiful Nordic Dream in Sweden, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists. Here Bona Natural is on the left in front of fireplace and Nordic is on the right surrounded by sanded white oak. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. Thank you SJ McCarthy for your expertise and explanation of time between coats, drying time and curing time. Web108K views 6 years ago. Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. That's what I ended up doing. Stand up to the effects of UV on the oak over time, 3. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. For those asking to see Intense Seal on white oak. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. I have some anxiety he didn't apply the poly in the correct thickness. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? That 'fit' can include their ability to communicate. There was a warning on the front door telling everyone to stay out. I have it in my home. Some Quartzites are more grainy which make them more porous. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? We also added the clerestory windows like you did. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. Not a one. I bought the cleaning spay and renew oil for the cabinets. Bona If not, you can at least trivially test the floor: First. Blue tape is where some contractors messed things up. You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. I personally love Quartzite. I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. WebUsing Bona NordicSeal to Create a Whitewashed Hardwood Floor Ever since greige became a big trend, people have been trying to lighten up their homes. I had no idea that white oak looks different when grown in one geographical area versus another. I would appreciate your advice on how to avoid the haze and advice on the Nordic product. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. And you want to have 3 coats total. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. I already lost quite a bit of money in the process so I wanted to know what I get before committing. However, I guess Ill put off retirement for a few more years to make up the cost. Your wood may take the coats differently than our wood. Your house lay out seems very much like ours! It is a work of art. Here are some of my samples. Directly before me was one of the mirrors I have mentioned, in which I saw reflected the tall shape of my friend, Mr. Jennings, leaning over my shoulder, and reading the page at which I was If, you want a raw pale look. Natural came in too natural or raw (though thats what I thought I wanted). Try this color if you want a darker shade. Erfahren Sie hierzu mehr in der Houzz Cookie-Richtlinie. Founded in 1919, Bona offers products for most premium floor surfaces including You only need an inch. The samples are done AFTER you hire the professional but BEFORE you put down the stain! Oak floors are beautiful and timeless. However, I think the maintenance is much harder than what I previously had - natural red oak with a higher sheen. Thanks for leaving this up. Fortunately, the installer is sending them back to the lumberyard to be replaced. Then the installer goes over it a second time causing lap marks or white lines. We did one coat of Bona natural seal and two coats of Bona HD extra matte on white oak. I am in the same predicament and not wanting to settle for maple! So in my mind better to research and ask questions than not. Eager to see what you chose and how it turned out. Quartzite gets a bad name due to companies mislabeling marbles, dolomites and sandstone. Thanks for sharing these pictures - they look great! More great information. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. White Oak A red oak floor does not need sealant. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. WebChapter IV - Four Eyes Were Reading the Passage I was running the head of my pencil-case along the line as I read it, and something caused me to raise my eyes. Make warm gray your new go-to neutral, Find the right local pro for your project, Landscape Architects & Landscape Designers, Outdoor Lighting & Audio/Visual Specialists, https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/, 5 Essential Moves for Classic Scandi Style, Dream Spaces: 12 Beautiful White Kitchens, White Cabinets Remain at the Top of Kitchen Wish Lists, Natures Color Wisdom: Lessons on White From the Great Outdoors, What to Know About Engineered Wood Floors, Maison & Objet: Art Deco and a Return to Elegance, Color of the Week: Decorating With Warm Gray. Wow sounds beautiful! @Ashley I just want to lay down on my floors and HUG them!! I will have to follow up. We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. YesBona Traffic HD is MUCH more expensive than over-the-counter stuff. How much should I expect the Traffic HD to change the color? Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? Doing a light stain like this is not easyand it takes time. We are deciding between Classic and Intense seal on our white oak floors as well! The light white washing will give you the raw look. Choosing finish on white oak floor. It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. Look forward to more pictures. I got attacked on this thread or another Houzz thread by a contractor for mentioning Rubio for cabinets but I did a ton of research and looked at pictures and it is what we went with. I will mention some Quartzites have a higher level of porosity and should be sealed regularly. You will save a little compared to Traffic HD, perhaps $0.25 psf. I purchased white oak high grade for our railings and black iron - our floors are Provenza At Ease and my railings match GREAT now, but need to seal them - what do you recommend? Thank you for your feedback. White Oak: Floor Pros! Qs on Nordic and Bona haze I want to make sure the floor is fully coated and not have to buff and finish again sooner than would normally be necessary. Not quite "honey oak" but not far from it. By clicking Accept I agree to this, as further described in the Houzz Cookie Policy. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. I did a lot of research before deciding on what product to use and how many top coats to use. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. @mtpo did you ever post final pictures of your floor? IntenSeal looked the best to me - darkening it enough to show the differences in the wood, but it seemed more tan/brown than yellow. Also thank you for post and thank you too other posters. You either pay the piper todayor you pay a couple more pipers in 15 yearsThe choice is yours. I DEFINITELY reccomend reading reviews for fabricators before choosing who you'll use . I also read on a hard wood flooring contractor's forum about how in the 1980s everyone's white floors eventually looked terrible because the inevitable scratches turn dark from dirt and look awful against the white. Did 4 coats of nordic and 3 traffic hd on 1 dollar a sq foot utility 4 inch white oak but some was red oak as well but still my dog likes it. It is the way it is normally done. My question to tcrp6566 is did you use a sealer first? WebBona DriFast Stain mix of White and Grey with two coats of Bona NaturalSeal and finished off with Mega ONE on this beautiful floor by Beyond The Grain Custom Design with Territory Manager, Jeff Offredo, on site. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. If, Bona Mega is your budget. The cost is nothing compared to the durability it will give. Painting Floor Tile or replacing floor tile, Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. I have a dog that has an occasional accident. Thank you. I'm sorry you felt diminished. I would rather find a cabinet line that carries white oak in this stain than go with a cabinet maker. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? I bought a cleaner made for the finish (similar to m quartz) and touch up is easy if needed. Just stick with Bona Traffic HD in a satin and you will be fine. I was thinking Bona Natural and then Bona Extra Matte finish? W Spray Mop Kit EJD1462712 Hd and Supra extra matte does not. My guess would be red oak since they have gone more orange. That's how building law works. I told the contractor, if he could remove the first-coat finish, I would purchase the right finish for him to use. ! It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. Sigh. The raw wood that was laid (almost the whole house) looks beautiful. @tkgriff Love the floor. sealer for Sandstone Hi! I had just had floors done by a floor shop, two years of hospice requires me to redo them, seems a layer can be scraped up with a spackle scraper easily and turned dark ( like cherry wood does in sunlight but this was white oak ). But, my husband and I are closer in agreement. I did a lot of research and planned to try Bona NaturalSeal, Bona ClassicSeal and Bona NordicSeal on this round of samples. He said my sister was lucky ((so far) he said its really not supposed to be used for countertops. The 'oil based' finishes that base costs of a finish allow 45 MINUTES of wet edge. I wish I had the link, but there are others that used a combination of stains with weathered oak as the base and it is beautiful as well. By the way, did you use any fillers to fill the knots and gaps between the planks? @mtpo sorry to bring this thread back. I just had four rooms of 30-year-old white oak floors sanded down to the raw wood and refinished with Bona products. Combining Bona NaturalSeal with a matte-sheen finish such as Bona Traffic Naturale preserves that look and gives your floor the He had 15 years of experience doing only floors and was highly recommended to me. I'm going to guess that's what the rep was trying to explain Of course your refinsher will apply a sample of EACH sealer on your freshly sanded floors so that you can DECIDE on the one you like (and will include a coat of the HD finish in the gloss level you have chosen.so that you can be 100% SURE of what you are choosing). Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? I did not pick our stain only from photos, we went to other houses and had samples done. So I suppose its even better than 3 coats in 3 days as I originally thought given your advice. The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. skip to main content Sale ON SALE - UP TO 75% OFF Bathroom Vanities Chandeliers Bar Stools Pendant Lights Rugs Living Room Chairs Dining Room Furniture Wall Lighting Coffee Tables Side & End Tables Home Office Furniture Sofas Bedroom Furniture Lamps Mirrors FURNITURE I read on the Bona website (and others) that TrafficHD coverage was 350-400sf/gal. Windows for a 1920's Spanish style home in SoCali. Nice when a risk pays off . Refinish Red Oak Flooring How . Hi everyone! We sell stone, fabricate and install countertops so we're there every step of the way which keeps me up to date on pretty much every stone that is used today. ?-- and liked playing around with it. Paint them over a piece of white paper and the finish turns orange all by itself! Bona Craft oil 2K oiled floor in COLOR Air and dogs. The Corian fabricator came back and polished them just like new. If you think of the paint color of your cabinets.pass it on please. Mainstays Farmhouse Oversized Floral | Furniture | ksl.com If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. Houzz nutzt Cookies und hnliche Technologien, um Ihre Benutzererfahrung zu personalisieren, Ihnen relevante Inhalte bereitzustellen und die Produkte und Dienstleistungen zu verbessern. The finish will look different if you start with different white oak. bona Compare that to the 2 MINUTES you have with Bona! Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. They are very unforgiving and I can't imagine these floors in a house with kids and a dog. It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. I believe they put Bona Mega One over the top just for example, but we will be using Bona Traffic HD. white oak floors, stain them or leave natural? A unique way of customizing your floor from a light whitewash to successive coats, providing a truly Scandinavian look. That leave NaturalSeal, ClassicSeal and IntenSeal. I have been on these boards so many times looking for advice and photos from what others have done. Please convince me not to settle with maple. Give a price you can make a living off of and let someone else win the low ball estimates. If you are in the area, you may want to visit Cochrans showroom. WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. Ask youself, do you WANT to see a floor that shines AFTER you clean it? Bona Traffic (original) is two steps up from Mega. I have found some great inspirational pictures. Be warned the wood and multiple coats of Bona products really add up $$$$. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. Red oak floors look horrible, help with light stain colors needed! BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. The real way this is tested is actually even meaner to the floor - normally you take a box cutter, cross-hatch the floor (IE cut it in a grid pattern), and then put the tape on it and rip it up. Thank you, I don't know the specific name of it. Their attention to detail. Would love to see pics of the InteseSeal, as we are considering the same. Heres a photo of our 7 Norwegian white oak before sanding or any sealer. They will not withstand the normal kitchen detergent cleanings that need to occurr to remove grease or pancake batter. I appreciate your pros helping on all these questions. Bona I asked for, but he never did, an all country white one. I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). I like natural white oak with your concept. White Oak - which Bona sealer A hint of tan. . think it turned out well. @J Sk did you use natural sealer or natural stain? We wanted to end up with a floor that looked as close to our raw wood as possible but had lots of protection. White oak seems to be kind of tricky. I guess it's my monitor because I don't see the pink undertone in the Houzz photo you last posted. We see it FAR to often (as in DAILY) on this forum. Will Bona Mega keep the wood color natural and avoid yellowing over time? Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? My stomach-- which had been in a knot for a year due to indecision relaxed. My builders subs didnt handle either material and just about everyone except @Joseph Corlett (who regularly comments on Houzz) grimaced when I mentioned Corian. The company that supplied the raw wood and the installer both recommend Bona products. Nordic seal has white pigments. The least porous Quartzites are actually called crystalline Quartzites. Whaaaaat???? Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? Think about going stylishly dark instead, The international shows designers bring the focus back to the craftsmanship and luxurious materials of the 1920s, See why an engineered wood floor could be your best choice (and no one will know but you), Gleaming wood floors are a thing of beauty. https://sprucingupmamahood.com/provenza-vinyl-flooring-review/. I did call Bona and they assured me that none of the 3 sealers would add "yellow" or "amber" to my floors - but thought I'd also ask here. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. white oak Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. Je peux rejeter les cookies non essentiels en cliquant sur Grer mes prfrences . Anyway, good luck. They were super rich! They were great to work with. There is a haze to the floors as someone posted its most likely due to the matte finish. photos of Bona Nordic and Bona Natural on white oak
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